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Hi. Not sure what the cs2 source codes looks and what is/isn't possible. But these are my general ideas around how the bhopping feels, what it could do better, and what it needs - as someone who was (is) a nerd when it comes to movement in source games.

Penalty for failing 1 hop
The penalty for failing 1 hop seems high. The penalty is obviously required, you shouldn't keep all of your speed unless you're mostly perfect, but if you mess up even slighty at say 500-600 velo (feels) you just lose it all.
From my (limited) understanding of your current plugin, it seems that the perfect bhop ('perf') window is the main thing that is being improved. That is, you have a higher margin of error between a perf and a fail than default CS movement.
If it were possible, to calculate the missed tick(s) between the first ground tick and the next jump input, and apply the movement reduction as a by-product of the two, this may feel more natural and less punishing. This could result in the perf window being lowered entirely, as the penalty for missing a perf would be reduced.

This would result in a more natural feel, opposed to now where it feels a bit 'all or nothing'.

Not sure if that is the best way to combat the problem or if that is possible. It could just be that movement penalty when you land can be reduced so that you lose less velocity when landing entirely, but this may result in 'icy' movement

Landing penalty
I mean penalty broadly. The stamina loss when you land results in the next hop being a lot 'lower'. That is, if you bhop after jumping off of a higher place, your next jump height is significantly reduced. Not sure how to fix this, as all the default CS2 stamina CVARs have been adjusted as required. But if all jump heights were consistent, this would result in a much better feel when playing.

Bullet punch penalty.
The penalty for being shot is very high. You lose almost all of your speed taking 1 bullet. If this could be removed entirely, this would make overall movement, and specifically rebelling, feel much nicer. Obviously, this would result in rebelling being a lot easier, but thats just skill gap. dud cts will always be duds.

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If anyone has any further inputs or things to mention regarding this, please reply. Thanks

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Hey (long post sorry)! As someone who's always played LR as top 1, top 2 has honestly grown on me. I think it is less punishing especially for all the new players. At the moment, there's a significant line in the community between old-heads playing, and new players discovering JB for the first time. If LR is top 1, it punishes the newer player so much more and can feel discouraging, as half the player base has hundreds if not thousands of hours on OS maps and therefore has a much higher chance of winning (skill gap obviously, but annoying nonetheless).

I think there are a couple annoyances with top 2 being LR in it's current state. The primary one being the option to rebel. Rebelling should be all or nothing, not one person gun tossing whilst the other 1v8s.
A solution to this could be simply a vote. If one of the last 2 alive select the option to rebel, its all or nothing, the other T has to agree. Could be simply 'Sun Tzu wants to do an AWP rebel, do you agree?' and if not, the other T has to play an actual LR game. Alternatively, if the other T loses their game or dies, rebelling now becomes an option for the solo T alive.
Not sure of peoples opinions on this, as the LR'ing process is already a longer one than we are all used to due to the way the LR menu works in this version, but it may provide less friction for CTs.

To combat the time taken to choose a rebel, perhaps an independent rebel command can be used instead of !lr. A T could write (in team chat or using /) !rebel, and then pick their rebel option. This then provides a message that only T's can see stating 'old mate wants to rebel', with an !y or !n to agree or disagree. This may make it quicker, a quick yes/no and then if no, just go back to !lr normally and select your game.

Also, this may assist Zone-x's response in that there is more freedom if there is only 1 T left, yes this will always be true in essence, but a 2v8 backstab rebel is possible, or 2v8 awp rebel, or 2v8 gun toss etc. It just needs to be cooporative, not combative.

That being said, always happy with the 2 LRers (real word) doing their own separate games, just would appreciate if rebelling was both or none (or one if last alive).

'nyways, just my thoughts and opinions. Would love to hear other's. Much love.

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Thanks everyone.

It feels a lot better. Its still challenging but at some points it almost feels a bit strong. Extra tuning will come with time as people get more used to the new bhopping. I would love for the other 2 issues to be assessed for feasability / resolution before the topic is closed @c . But that being said I appreciate all the time and effort you guys are putting in.

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Hey Broccoli! I appreciate you taking the time to write the post and advise of some suggestions. Much of what you're suggesting has been suggested before and has been implemented/rejected for various reasons. I would appreciate if you would take the time to have a look at some previous posts and see what you think. Anyways, I'll go through some of your suggestions and provide some details - as someone who also came from OS and has taken the time to experience Slime Servers as it is at the moment.

1. The CT raffle might be interesting to get used to, but it can be convenient, and also allows cycling of the CT team so players do not 'dominate' the CT side and makes it unfair. It also allows enforcement of the ratio even when staff aren't on. If you'd recall from OS, 15 people on and 10 CTs doesn't turn into the most interesting rounds. Your argument around 'T sided' doesn't make sense, as the ratio is the same 1CT:3T on high pop anyways, so what you're saying doesn't really add up.

2. Yes the gun magazines are an issue, this has been brought up before and is potentially being sorted, but due to the way CS2 works it is a bit of a hassle, but yes known problem.

3. Jetpack - I'm not the hugest fan of jetpack, but you'll get over it. I don't mind it as much anymore, just get good!

4. Bhopping - yes i have made a post about this in the past, and it is actively being worked on. Please note the server is new and CS2 and subtick etc are significant hurdles. It's getting worked on, have some patience

5. A version of tear gas is implemented. The sticking part is likely being worked on. This has been suggested before.

6. Yes this has also been suggested. Being looked into

7. Yes, source issue / server issue. I appreciate you bringing it up as it likely hasn't been officially brought up - will let others comment.

8. 2 LR vs 1 LR has come up a lot. I'll mostly repeat what I've said previously, but 2 LRs will grow on you. Theres a couple key issues with it, but 2 LR is really not the issue you think it is. It's just different. Have a look through some previous posts if you want to see some debate/ideas about it.

9. Yes. agreed.

Anyways, much appreciate your time to make a post and appreciate your input. You might get some information and input from previous posts if you were interested in that!!

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Hey, previews are available here: https://slimeserversau.com/topic/125/custom-skin-images?_=1787736233685 as posted by ivork. theyre a bit buggy but good enough for now. Not sure if C is planning on making a different one or not but here you are!

As per title, would like some sort of command, !showpos or similar, that toggled a velocity tracker in the top left/top right - to show horizontal velocity so we can know how fast we are. Thanks

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